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"We also want to have no college diploma", apple and Google break the curse of "education"?

via:博客园     time:2020/10/17 15:20:35     readed:103


Source: Big Data Digest

Author: Niu wanyang, Li Lei

In recent months, apple and Google have made waves in education. Google has launched a series of new courses in the career certificate program, which can be completed in about six months without a foundation.


Meanwhile, Apple announced a launch in Alabama in February


Apple CEO Tim

In recent years, technology companies like Google and apple hope to change the whole education landscape by offering new courses to encourage students to learn popular technologies outside the classroom.

In other words, in fact, many big companies are not so strict about their education requirements. As long as they have enough ability, apple and Google will open the door for you.

Apple Google: we want to have no college degree

In recent years, Apple and Google have made great strides in the field of education, launching a number of software development and other technical skills courses for students and adults. For some types of work, both companies no longer require a college degree and think that no diploma will not affect recruitment.

The moves of these technology giants show that, in addition to the traditional four-year university study, there are more opportunities to accumulate vocational skills in the technology industry.

Apple CEO Tim


Nevertheless, experts believe that a college degree is essential in most fields. However, as more and more technology companies accept alternative education or development training camps, it is possible to get high paying jobs even without certificates and diplomas.

In fact, Apple introduced a model as early as 2016


Apple and Google executives also talked about why not having a college degree doesn't affect job applicants.

A former senior vice president of personnel at google for 10 years Lazlo Bock told the new york times in 2014:

Apple CEO cook believes that there may be a gap between what students learn in school and the skills they actually need at work.


He said at the 2019 U.S. Labor Policy Advisory Board meeting:

How can you get to your favorite company without going to college? Take a look at the following example.

Openai researcher with only a high school degree said in person: do you need to go to college?


Christopher Olah is a technical researcher at openai with a high school degree. Although he did not graduate from the University and got a high-quality job, he told us from his own experience that in fact, non-traditional path is not encouraged because it is more risky and depends on personal conditions to a large extent.

He gave a suggestion to compare universities with specific choices. If your plan is to study independently or engage in a project, it deserves special consideration. Olah said he had done three years of projects and had grown a lot

Importantly, we need to realize that the absence of a degree can have several negative long-term consequences. Like being able to handle someone's feelings

But Olah tells us from his experience that it's not necessary not to go to college. In his resume, you can see that he has rich working experience. He not only worked as an assistant teaching assistant at the University of Toronto, but also had a year's internship experience in Google brain, and then became an assistant researcher of Google brain. He has been a technical researcher at openai since October 2018.


So how did he get Google and openai to open the door for him? Olah introduced his learning resources to us, such as online classes, participating in some summer camps, online community communication activities, and even paying attention to some big V in related fields. He also suggested that those who want to study independently should take part in some academic internships in scientific research laboratories or in companies, which will greatly help their growth.

But don't forget Olah's first remark that not going to college is relatively risky.

University degree is still the mainstream

Experts believe that the value of universities is much more than the academic knowledge learned. Marc cenedella, founder and CEO of ladders Inc., a career counseling and job search website that pays more than $100000 a year, says a college degree can tell prospective employers that you have other advantages.

After all, four years of college means that you have been able to complete all the tasks under the guidance of your teacher. Moreover, according to the U.S. Bureau of labor statistics, people with a college degree or above tend to earn much more than those without a degree.

But cenedella also said big companies like apple and Google that need all kinds of talent may be an exception, looking for people with special skills.


Speaking about Apple and Google, he said,

But if you don't want to go to college, you also need to know that these choices can lead you to a more difficult career path. Michael Horowitz, President of TCS education system, says that even companies like apple, which have been advocating non-traditional education, are more likely to hire people with both college degrees and technical training.

This is not to say that vocational and technical schools cannot be chosen. Horowitz believes that even if a college degree has become a stepping stone to high paying jobs, you can still choose vocational schools and programming camps.

But the most important thing is to study hard and make sure that the courses you take really allow you to start your career.

Career coach and consultant Lynn Berger New York:

New online courses like programming camp may one day replace the traditional four-year university, but cenedella says it's not likely yet.

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